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 Verfasst am: 09.07.2008 - 16:28 Titel: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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Hi,
I am a long time user of 1by1 (there's been quite some years since I found and fell in love with it). 
I really (REALLY!) think it is the best audio player of the entire world. I even wish I could say it is so good it can't possibly get better, but I am still one step away from saying so...
The only thing I think 1by1 is missing is a small window on the corner of the program wich will display any folder.jpg image file (after all, we are visual creatures - a image is still worth a thousand words  ).
If we could get this, It would be amazing! 
 Is there any chance?
Anyway, I would like to thank you for such a wonderful (and free) program!
Yours,
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| Verfasst am: 09.07.2008 - 18:10 Titel: RE: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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I was thinking about something similar:
I play all my recorded DJ sets (from live events) with 1by1 player (mp3 + cue sheet).
These live events are always announced by "flyers"
It would be cool if these flyers (.jpg in digital format) could be visible in 1by1.
I don't know if this is a hard thing to implement.
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| Verfasst am: 09.07.2008 - 20:22 Titel: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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| NastyBeats hat folgendes geschrieben: | | It would be cool if these flyers (.jpg in digital format) could be visible in 1by1 |
Hi, Johan, I am also not quite sure about that (if it would be hard or not). 
I have a little bit of programming skills and I think since 1by1 is A GREAT but not A BIG program, it makes sense that, given the use of a Graphical IDE development platform, it should not be too hard (even though all programming takes time, might give some trouble and introduce new bugs). But hey, talking is ALWAYS easy, and I really apologize to the developer for wanting to give him some trouble  (depending on the language he uses, I could volunteer to help).
What I am really suggesting is this:
- The program should use a very common way of displaying the cover image nowadays (for most media players).
- Most MP3 taggers/organizers (and also a lot of media players) download the COVER ART from the internet and put it in A FILE inside the ALBUM FOLDER, naming the file "FOLDER.JPG".
I (and I assume many people like me) have hundreds of albums that already behave like this, with a single image inside the album folder with this same naming scheme.
- Since 1by1 is the best player for folder organized music collections, I think it really makes sense for it to READ AND DISPLAY the "FOLDER.JPG" in a small unobtrusive corner.
Using the IDE, creating a simple small window to display a JPEG image on the interface is usually easy enough (depending on the language and tool being used...  ).
- To make things easier, I think it is not necessary to display the cover art when the player is in "compact view". (or maybe a tiny image, just for reference, if the developer is up for it)
I think, like you, that displaying some kind of album art from this simple file inside the folder (and NOT from the file TAG, as this would give A LOT of trouble) would help us to better recognize the album (if you have large collections this is really an issue).
In your case, for instance, you could put a copy of your flyers in .JPG format in your album folder and rename it to folder.jpg (for better visualization you could also crop and resize this image).
If you use a Windows Operating System, (with the folder.jpg files) you can set your folders to display "miniatures" and all your albums folders icons will already be displayed with the full cover art on it. The problem is that it's always better to use a SINGLE PROGRAM to browse through the albums folders.
Another alternative that would give a little more trouble to the developer is to give the user a field in the preferences to set the default name for the cover art (you could name yours flyer.jpg, but that would would work only for the live sets with this file and that’s why I always think the folder.jpg naming scheme is always the best option).
Yours,
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| Verfasst am: 11.07.2008 - 11:06 Titel: RE: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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[quote="audio"] | NastyBeats hat folgendes geschrieben: | | Using the IDE, creating a simple small window to display a JPEG image on the interface is usually easy enough (depending on the language and tool being used... :roll: ). |
Not really - if using the "pure" Windows API. But it's a nice idea and I try if it is possible. If so, 1by1 will get an extened picture display feature - which shows either the folder.jpg or pictures fitting to filenames. Reading pictures from ID3v2 tags is not planned.
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| Verfasst am: 11.07.2008 - 17:55 Titel: Re: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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| mpesch3 hat folgendes geschrieben: | | Not really - if using the "pure" Windows API. But it's a nice idea and I try if it is possible...Reading pictures from ID3v2 tags is not planned |
Hi, Martin, thank you very much for your reply!
You're absolutely right on this (it should be hard programming that feature). I was thinking about delphi, netbeans, IDEs, but now I get it (the pure windows API)... And that must be the reason you have managed to keep your program so small, simple and neat! (we can never thank you enough)
I'm sorry for thinking (maybe more like wishing) that it should be easy. I did not mean to be rude at all, please forgive me for that.
Anyway, thank you for even CONSIDERING the IDEA. I will be so thrilled if you can acomplish that!
About the TAG reading, I agree that it would just be going in the wrong way (probably it would clutter the program too much). I think it's just too complicated and unnecessary (let's just stay with the fastest, leanest, smallest and more useful program).
I could type in a THOUSAND THANK YOUs but still would not be enough...
Yours,
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| Verfasst am: 11.07.2008 - 20:55 Titel: RE: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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Hi
Just my 2 cents: I think it could be something like the BigView window, floating and resizable, so draging a corner or a border would shrink or expand the image.
And, Martin, you already have part of the code for that (like I said, from the BigView feature) so that's a little less work for you  . That is, assumming that it's possible to use part of that code as a base for this picture diplay feature.
Best regards,
Gabriel.
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| Verfasst am: 11.07.2008 - 22:03 Titel: RE: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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The Picture corner will be below the Tree view. It should have an adjustable height (width of tree), and the image shall be scaled. If no picture is found, the normal tree will be shown. That's the plan;)
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| Verfasst am: 11.07.2008 - 22:33 Titel: RE: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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That sounds like music to my ears :p
Looking forward to future versions |
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| Verfasst am: 12.07.2008 - 02:02 Titel: Re: RE: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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| mpesch3 hat folgendes geschrieben: | | The Picture corner will be below the Tree view. It should have an adjustable height (width of tree), and the image shall be scaled. If no picture is found, the normal tree will be shown. |
wOW!  wow!  w0w!
Is it christmas yet? 
(because this will be the perfect gift) The idea of putting it in the Tree view is fantastic! I had not imagined it so far... It's a perfect place.
If I may (respectably) suggest:
Maybe the window could be above the tree instead of below...
Since this forum does not allow for images inside, I made some "prototypes" of the feature, so we can evaluate the position of the window better:
1by1 WITH COVER WINDOW --ABOVE-- :
http://i36.tinypic.com/24wzhwm.png
1by1 WITH COVER WINDOW --BELOW-- :
http://i34.tinypic.com/293g102.png
1by1 in COMPACT MODE :
http://i38.tinypic.com/21o7yv6.png
(this one was just for fun, I don't know if it will be really useful like in full window view - most probably not.  )
I hope you like it. Thank you again for all your great work.
Yours,
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| Verfasst am: 12.07.2008 - 02:57 Titel: Re: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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I just forgot that the player will also (maybe) need a new button: "Toggle Picture view".
Here is the interface with my view of it (just an option ):
http://i33.tinypic.com/zlymfl.png
I tried to make the "picture view" button look like the "Mona Lisa"...
(but I guess the size of the button and the lack of color kind of 'took it away'... )
| Zitat: | | If no picture is found, the normal tree will be shown. |
I'm sorry to ask that, but I'm afraid that would keep introducing too many changes on the size of the "tree view" when browsing albums, wouldn't it?
Maybe it could behave just like the "tree view" does. When the toggle button is pressed the "picture view" window goes OFF; press it again and it goes ON.
To eliminate the burden of the "tree view" window changing size all the time, I would prefer a fixed "picture view", even when it is empty. I think the space that this view window would take is small enough (and important enough) so that we won't miss that extra space in the "tree view" (and even if we do, all we have to do is to press the button and toggle the "picture view" OFF, restoring the full height of the "tree view").
Please forgive me for keeping trying to show my point of view on this feature... (I'm just too excited about it...)
Yours,
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| Verfasst am: 18.07.2008 - 10:14 Titel: Re: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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| audio hat folgendes geschrieben: | I just forgot that the player will also (maybe) need a new button: "Toggle Picture view".
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I'm sorry to ask that, but I'm afraid that would keep introducing too many changes on the size of the "tree view" when browsing albums, wouldn't it? |
As it is realized by now, the changing height of the tree view does not extremely disturb the handling. I think an image above the tree would make it more uncomfortable, but below the tree it is working well. A fixed space for images which may be empty would be ugly in my oppinion. But this also depends on the feedbacks. If users say, they can't browse folders any more with the toggling image, it's always possible to change this.
An extra button for switching the image feature on and off won't be implemented. There is one checkbox in the settings and an item in the options menu. And of course, the feature can be toggled by shortcut (Ctrl+Shift+P).
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| Verfasst am: 19.07.2008 - 02:29 Titel: Re: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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| mpesch3 hat folgendes geschrieben: | | ...the changing height of the tree view does not extremely disturb the handling...below the tree it is working well...extra button for switching the image feature on and off won't be implemented... |
That's just excellent! The single possibility of the image display is good enough for me (and I believe most probably for many of us users).
This will be great! Thank you so much, Martin!
Yours,
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| Verfasst am: 21.07.2008 - 00:39 Titel: Re: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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| mpesch3 hat folgendes geschrieben: | | ...As it is realized by now, the changing height of the tree view does not extremely disturb the handling...below the tree it is working well...depends on the feedbacks... |
Hi, Martin,
sorry to disturb you...
Don't you need some alpha or beta testers for the coming version?...
If there is any possibility, I'm all up for it!
Yours,
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| Verfasst am: 24.07.2008 - 09:27 Titel: RE: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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Good idea. You can test the new features in this alpha version. As there are some unfinished things in it, please don't publish it anywhere.
Martin
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| Verfasst am: 25.07.2008 - 08:00 Titel: Re: RE: Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World] |
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| mpesch3 hat folgendes geschrieben: | | Good idea. You can test the new features in this alpha version. |
Yes! For sure! Thank you for that oportunity!
I'm right on that!
(Do you want me to start a new thread in the forum for anything I find, or should I post here?)
I also should tell you that I used to test Software for a big Unix System, so I kind of know how annoying  it can be to point out some flaws in somebody else's coding.
I beg you to forgive me if I find anything that upsets you.
| Zitat: | | As there are some unfinished things in it, please don't publish it anywhere. |
For sure, I would never do that, rest assured.
Thank you so much!
Yours,
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