Cover-Art with 1by1? [formerly: Best Player of the World]

[7Orfeo7]

OK, here's my report after testing v165 Alpha:

(PDA = Picture Display Area)

1) The image stretchs it's height to fill that of the PDA; IMHO, the image should always keep it's original aspect ratio.
2) When adjusting the height of the PDA (left button click/drag/release), the folders disappear until the button is released.
3) When adjusting the height of the PDA, if you drag the line all the way to the bottom and then back up, the image gets "broken and multiplied" (sorry, my limited English doesn't allow me to put it more properly). Again, that's until the button is released.
4) I'm gonna need an example for this one: if the original image is, lets say, 200 x 200 px, and you try to set your PDA to 200 (height) x 150 (width), the image will "float" over the PDA's right border (with a similar effect to what I described in item nº 3 above), instead of rescaling to 150x150. Reloading the file list clears that graphic glitch.
5) The background color of the PDA should match the background color of 1by1.

I recorded a little video to illustrate items 2, 3 and 4, in that order (whenever you see a red circle around the cursor arrow it means either that I'm dragging the left mouse button or that I just clicked it):

http://www.mediafire.com/?d1znn4yncsm

Like audio said, I also hate pointing out flaws, but, well, this is an alpha, that's what we're suposed to do .
Best regards,

Gabriel.

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[mpesch3]

Thanks for your detailed reports.

Yes, the correctly fitting image will only be reloaded on releasing the mouse button. I think the ugly scenes while rezising are not a problem, as they don't occur on normal usage.

Using the background color of the lists is not as easy. Because a second element "behind" the picture would be needed, and I don't know if this is "allowed". Other solutions would be too complex.

The aspect ratio problem has been corrected here:

http://www.mpesch3.de1.cc/1by1_165alpha20080725.zip

Martin

[NastyBeats]

I Also had a close look at the first alfa version
My remarks/sugestions:

1. jpg is shown when active mp3 or cuesheet is selected, but not when the active m3u file is selected.
I suppose this isn't implemented yet?

2. I think the playlist view should be in the lower right corner, not in the upper right corner. It feels weird having the dirtree on the upper left corner and the content view of the dir in the lower right place. (crossed)
IMO the dirtree and content window should be next to each other.

3. A "toggle jpeg" icon next to the "toggle playlist view" icon. (on the left side, because the jpeg is on the left side, playlist is on the right side)

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[NastyBeats]

Ok something that popped up in my head moments ago (I know development is progressed a lot, but just consider this):

Instead of reserving value desktopspace for the flyer why not showing .jpg files in the directorytree?

When you click on a .jpg in thedirtree you can see the .jpg in the right window where normally the .mp3 files are shown. (the .mp3 window is hidden since the .jpg is visible when a jpeg is clicked in the dirtree)
It's not that you watch cover art all the time, so displaying it all the time is a "waste" of desktop space.

Advantage:
1. You keep the original space for the dirtree (important for small computerscreens)
2. the dirtree can handle multiple .jpg's and their name is irrelevant. Directory handling is the basic idea of this player, so we should stick to this idea.
3. You don't need to activate the mp3 to see the corresponding coverart. You can play an mp3 of another album when viewing .jpg from another dir/album.
4. Covers can be much bigger when since you use the same desktopspace twice (for coverart and .mp3/.cue display)
5. The discussion about the "toggle picture view" icon in the menu bar is irrelevant.

[mpesch3]

Nice idea, indeed.

But for the next release there won't be any more changes in the picture feature. To view all files of a folder you should try "Open picture" in the main menu (right click e.g. on the pic). This should open the current viewer which allows browsing the images and shows them in full size. Doesn't this work? May be this Menu item should be documented...

Martin

[NastyBeats]

Yup, it does work in the alfa.

For now, no need to completely change the picture feature (development is advanced to far)

Its just that it doesn't really work easy on my small laptop window (14 inch, I turned the pic feature off)
That's why I was searching for a more streamlined solution.

I believe the solution I described fits more the basic idea of the program (working with dirs).

I don't know what language 1by1 is programmed in, but some languages (VB6, Java,..) have the ability to place multiple frames on top of each other (fileview on top of pic view,...) You can set them invisible/visible in the gui depending on the action by the user


I'm just giving comments, suggestions, userexperiences so that the program becomes better and better over time

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Hi, Johan,
I will reply some of your statements above just because I wish to keep the discussion about the Cover Art alive. I think that it's quite healthy that everyone gets to comment about it and show his point of view.

Please don't take this personally, as I kind of slightly disagree on some of the things you said. Our only goal here is that we're both trying to improve 1by1 (we think it's so great that we picked it to be our player of choice).

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[NastyBeats]

ok guys I took notes of your remarks.

Let me make it a bit easier:

- Show .jpg files in the dirtree (left window).
When doubleclicking a . jpg, show the picture in a
seperate window, centered on the screen (similar
like the bigscreen feature)
-> The position should be fixed, doubleclicking
the picture closes the popupwindow/picture

this way, the dirtreeview and the playlist view keep the same width & height, and thats what I prefer on my small laptopscreen.

This way the playlist remains visible - required by Martin in previous post.

It would be optimal if picturebehaviour could be selected in the options screen (either in a popup window or in a frame as it is now)

Showing .jpg files in the dirtree gives more freedom (number of jpg's and name) and it is usable for both ways (popupwindow/frame) of displaying the picture.

Once again these are sugestions !!